[Matt]

Originally Posted by Formatman

plus de 800 plug-in

>> Très exactement 746 ... Dont 7 réalisés par notre formateur préféré ^^

Originally Posted by LeMoi

Allez, Matt, au boulot, traduction de cette version

>> Dans la mesure où l'auteur vient tout juste d'intégrer un système de traduction me permettant de reprendre mon travail d'une version à l'autre (jusqu'à présent, je devais reprendre la traduction de l'interface à zéro pour chaque version), je vais voir ce que je peux faire même si d'habitude je ne traduisait que les versions finales ... Mais je peux vraiment rien promettre car je travaille désormais seul pour la traduction, ce qui fait pas mal de boulot ...

[EDIT]Dans l'état actuel des choses, le système de traduction est inutilisable ... Je maile immédiatement l'auteur pour lui demander comment ça marche [/EDIT]

Originally Posted by 1for-matik

En effet! X-Setup reste gratuit jusqu'a la version 6.9 (D'après ce que j'ai réussi à traduire! )

>> C'est exactement ça.

Originally Posted by 1for-matik

après va falloir payer 7€ pour la licence!

>> 1) 7€, c'est vraiment pas énorme pour un soft de cette qualité, surtout quand on voit les tarifs de la concurrence (Tweak XP, etc ... qui sont généralement à plus de 30€)
2) Sur les 7€ des versions françaises, y aura 1€ pour le gentil traducteur, donc si vous l'utilisez, ça serait cool de pas utiliser des version "tombée de la mule" ...

Originally Posted by 1for-matik

Oui bon même si ce n'est pas sorcier!

>> Pour avoir vu certaines portions de code de X-Setup, qui n'étaient pourtant de loin pas les plus complexes, je peux te dire que le code de X-Setup est bien plus compliqué qu'il ne peut le paraître ...

En bonus, maintenant que X-Setup Pro est officialisé, je me permet de vous copier le mail que m'a envoyé l'auteur il y a quelques semaines, dans lequel il explique les raisons de ce changement :

Originally Posted by TexHex

Howdy Matt!

Long time not spoken, I hope everything is okay on your side.

As you have noticed from the subject of this email, there is a major change for X-Setup. But please let me explain:

First of all, we will start this year with a public 6.5 BETA Program.

Secondly, we will have a new website (http://www.x-setup.net/ - already online, but not filled with content...) which will look much better than the old xteq.com. Plus, we have a new member (Eric) that will take care of the website and also user support, so we will have a much better communication with our customers. Plus, Eric will allow me to concentrate more on the coding which will result in more frequent updates to X-Setup.

So, these are the good news, now to the bad news: We will convert X-Setup to X-Setup Pro (XSP) which means SHAREWARE ! However, before you flame me, please let me explain.

Since I need to do more for my "real" job, I can not spend so much time on XSP as I would like. So, I need to utilize the time remaining for coding on XSP instead of Support questions, FAQ, Helpfile and things like this. The other members of the Xteq team also have "real" Jobs that does not allow them to participate more for XSP. Please do not get me
wrong: They all do a lot for XSP, but all the items I just mentioned need a real big amount of time which neither of us can provide.

We have waited really a long time for a new member that could take care of this, but after the DotCom Crises, nobody seems to be interested in Freeware anymore. Of course, everybody wants Freeware but literally nobody want to do the, well, "doing". We have tried this with our Delphi site for more than one year, but the "X-Setup Community" does not really work as we have expected it.

We currently have around five (!) 3rd party plug-in developers that regularly provide plugins and two-three people that help others with problems on the Delphiforums.com site. Given how many downloads XSP still has, that's not really much and thus we need help.

So I started to search for somebody who would be willing to do this and I come up with Eric, CEO of dotec.de. I know him quite a long time and already done some projects with him. As I informed him, he was right away highly interested in this projects so we formed, if you want to call it this way, an alliance. Xteq Systems will provide XSP and dotec will provide the helpfile, the website, the forum etc. Of course, he wants to get money for this and thus, XSP will be renamed to X-Setup Pro and will be Shareware.

However, one of reason why we will do this with dotec, is because Eric shares the same idea of software as myself: First, either software should be free or it should be very cheap. Secondly, the people should get a real value for their money. We think this is a very important part of the entire X-Setup Pro Shareware story, because we will _NOT_ simply take the current X-Setup label it X-Setup Pro and charge money for it.

Instead, we will provide ALL Versions from 6.5 to 6.9 for free for private and home users, just as it was with X-Setup. Only Version 7.0 and upwards will cost money. During this pre-7.0 phase (6.5 - 6.9) we will add feature that are already a long time on your todo list but that we never were able to deliver because of the time problem as described above. To name just a few: Full translation support for the program and later on the plug-ins, an "Apply to different User" feature, a roll-back feature etc.

The next important thing to know about X-Setup Pro is, that it will be _very_ cheap. We will sell it for around __8__ USD/EUR (no joke!) plus a pre-sales phase rebate for people that, well, pre-order 7.0.

So, this is the plan for X-Setup for the next time. I'm writing you this because first I want to know your opinion: Does this make sense? What do you think about this? You are a very long friend of X-Setup, so your opinion matters to us.

Secondly, we would like to know if you are still interessted in X-Setup, although it will be called X-Setup Pro. As with the translation stuff, we could really need to your help.

Regardless how your opinion is, please tell us! Thank you very much.

[LeMoi]

j'avais cru comprendre que les versions suivantes seraient payantes pour les options supplémentaires, mais que les options deja présentes dans les versions précédentes demeureraient gratuites ?

[Matt]

Originally Posted by LeMoi

j'avais cru comprendre que les versions suivantes seraient payantes pour les options supplémentaires, mais que les options deja présentes dans les versions précédentes demeureraient gratuites ?

>> Non, je ne crois pas que ça soit prévu ...

[streets]

Originally Posted by Matt

>> Dans la mesure où l'auteur vient tout juste d'intégrer un système de traduction me permettant de reprendre mon travail d'une version à l'autre (jusqu'à présent, je devais reprendre la traduction de l'interface à zéro pour chaque version), je vais voir ce que je peux faire même si d'habitude je ne traduisait que les versions finales ... Mais je peux vraiment rien promettre car je travaille désormais seul pour la traduction, ce qui fait pas mal de boulot ...

ca c une bonne nouvelle . . . j'vais voir ca prochainement

PS: sorry matt j'ai jamais retrouvé les anciennes vers de x-setup . . . (c vrai ca fait un moment que je t'en avais parlé:rolleyes:

[Matt]

Originally Posted by streets

ca c une bonne nouvelle

>> Mais la mauvaise, c'est que ce système de traduction est inutilisable tant que l'auteur m'aura pas expliqué comment il marche
Et par ailleurs, il me semble encore très incomplet :confused: